well we all are capable of making mistakes, what matters most is what you do after the fact. you know you did some bad things are learning from them, which is a really good step in the right direction. you could always bury the hatchet with those you hurt, if they continue to be dicks then that’s on them honestly. you’re a good kid after all, you’re learning having to deal with so much after all

* { i guess so. i do try, but like… i don’t want to absolve myself of things by being like, “oh i’ve moved on, they’re the ones who suck for not doing the same” }

* { because it doesn’t really work like that, you know? at the very least i’d like to just… i dont know. if people have an issue with me, fine, so be it, i just. don’t want it thrown at me whenever i so much as show up somewhere. }

* { ugh. this feels like i’m going back and forth too much,,, i don’t want to fault anyone for being upset or afraid but i also just, want to be left alone if i’m not going out of my way to talk to someone, i guess? i don’t know. }

Why does everyone seem to hate and fear you? You try so hard, so much harder than everyone else…why can’t people see that you’re a kid with way too much on their plate? They only see the demon they want to see…disgusting! You don’t pay them any heed! You’re not a demon, or something to that holds Flaps back! You help others in need, and are a wonderful friend to Flaps! You respect him enough to let him remember…you have so much power over him, but you use it for his good!

* { they hate and fear me for damn good reason and i’m not about to sit here and act the victim over it. }

* { like, yes! it hurts like hell. yes, it’s isolating. yes, i wish it wasn’t the way it is – but because of who and what i am, there’s always going to be people who are afraid of me. for what others like me have done. }

* { and i’m not in a position to fault someone for being afraid like that. i’ve made my mistakes, i’ve hurt people. i’m not completely innocent. i’m still learning. }

* { acting like i do no wrong and that everyone who says otherwise is just “a hater” is only going to end poorly. it’s a harsh criticism, but it’s a needed one. i do have a lot of power, and i need to make sure i keep that fact in mind. so that i don’t abuse it anymore. }

that’s good to hear! maybe when all of this blows over and flaps gets back to a better state you guys can make friends with everyone? im sure with time things can improve for everyone, you’ve both improved so much it’d suck to have it all fall apart now. just gotta hang in there and hope for the best!

* { i hope so…. making friends with everyone isn’t super attainable, though, we’ve come to realize that. }

* { not everyone is going to like us, or get along with us. it wasn’t smart of us to try and keep forcing it, you know. }

* { being amicable with others is a lot more attainable. }

oh jeeze, sounds like you guys got a lot of unneeded stress, if things got better would you ever return to the big chat? i can only hope flaps gets better, he’s such a nice guy its sad to see him like this

* { i’m already back in it for the time being. not…. not in a mod position, you know, just. there. }

* { i don’t talk much though. it isn’t really my place to and there’s only a small handful of those in there that enjoy me being around. }

* { but i hope he does too,, he deserved a break, for sure, but… him getting attacked, him being so quick to snap at people, it’s just. it’s not been good for him. i just don’t know how things are gonna be once he comes out of it. like – maybe it’d be better if he didnt remember anything, but at the same time i know that’d cause issue too. }

Could our M!A’s help get Flaps back on his feet? Or would you not want that to happen for the same reasons you aren’t comfortable with other proposed M!A’s? We just really want to help…It sucks that when one of you is sad, the other suffers too…would you ever want to break that link?

* { i… don’t know. }

* { on one hand, it is nice, but….. it limits him, having me around and hooked up to him. i don’t like holding him back. }

* { not that he’s ever told me that i hold him back – i just. feel like i do, and i don’t like it. }

* { what exactly do you have in mind as far as him getting back on his feet goes, though? you aren’t being super clear about it. }

Why did you two leave the big chat? Was it too stressful?

* { it was way too stressful. }

* { fights and disagreements were breaking out left and right, there was always someone going on about SOME issue they were having, it was just…. it was a lot to keep looking at. }

* { and i mean. we MADE that chat. we modded it. but eventually things got to a point where we both felt that staying there and in that position was just going to make everyone hate us eventually. }

Are you and Flaps still trying to be pacifists? Or is it getting harder and harder to see the good in everyone, and keep your anger in control? There’s no shame in killing for the right reasons, like self-defense or justice.

* { it’s been…. difficult. i don’t think we were good at striking the line of “what’s going too far” at all, early on, you know. we got doormatted. }

* { we both still firmly believe that everyone has good in there somewhere, but…. we’ve just realized that it can’t be up to us all the time to find it and fix things. }

* { the only time either of us would condone killing right now would be in self-defense. i don’t like the idea of killing someone just to get justice. }

* { maybe…. in seriously extreme cases, where it’d be needed for the safety of others overall. but. i don’t see anything like that coming around anytime soon. }

* { i Also don’t like saying “there’s no shame in killing” even if it is for the reasons listed. taking a life is a pretty serious thing, and it should be treated as such. }

* { i realize that i haven’t upheld these kind of methods and such since i woke back up, but i’m. firm in sticking to them now. i don’t want more of that. }